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Kimball suggested at the general conference that Native Americans who converted to Mormonism were gradually becoming lighter skinned:.

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I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today… The day of the Lamanites is nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised. In this picture of the twenty Lamanite missionaries, fifteen of the twenty were as light as Anglos, five were darker but equally delightsome. The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter we represent, the little member girl—sixteen—sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather… These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

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If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. During the civil rights movement, the LDS Church came under pressure as such teachings became offensive to a growing number of people. How pureblooded did a light-skinned man have to be to receive ordination or enter the temple?

In this context, Spencer Kimball, who was now Church president, announced a new revelation in , and Black men were granted the priesthood. Over the years, ordinary Mormons and church leaders have struggled with this heritage. Now, with winding down, Church authorities have decided to tackle the problem head on. In a word document posted Friday, officials emphatically renounced the racist teachings of the past:.

The church disavows the theories advanced in the past that black skin is a sign of divine disfavour or curse, or that it reflects actions in a premortal life; that mixed-race marriages are a sin; or that blacks or people of any other race or ethnicity are inferior in any way to anyone else. Church leaders today unequivocally condemn all racism, past and present, in any form. Much of what is in the new document has been said before by Mormon scholars attempting to reconcile modern ethics with Church history.

But this new statement is noteworthy because it comes from the Church headquarters in Salt Lake City. Unlike many other forms of Christianity, the Mormon hierarchy maintains strict control over doctrinal evolution and public statements. Consequently, this document can be seen as part of an official trend toward greater openness and transparency about Mormon history. Increasingly, Mormon authorities are adopting the stance that the best way to meet criticism is with good humor and well-framed candor. Church leaders have since issued a communique addressing the question of whether Mormons are Christians answer: yes.

Even some LDS quirks seem to be turning into positives. The Church was established in , during an era of great racial division in the United States. At the time, many people of African descent lived in slavery, and racial distinctions and prejudice were not just common but customary among white Americans. Efforts to mainstream Mormon religion are taking many forms. The Church is reaching out to young people, and the current emphasis on civil rights can be seen as one strong way of allying with youth culture.

That said, as former Mormon Garrett Amini explains , getting the Mormon hierarchy to embrace other civil rights like real equality for women and gays may present an even bigger theological challenge than equality for Blacks. Also, the question of whether Mormon beliefs will be accepted as mainstream has challenges of its own. Tony Nugent, retired professor of religious studies, agrees. A quick read suggests they also are far from mainstream. May the process of wrestling and growth continue. Valerie Tarico is a psychologist and writer in Seattle, Washington. Subscribe to her articles at Awaypoint.

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Women are already steamrolling the guys, but I hold out a little less promise for female ordinations. If women get the Mormon Priesthood, the men except the gay ones will stop attending. One wonders what schisms will occur in the wake of this announcement; after all, other attempts at change like forbidding polygamy bred rebellious church offshoots at every turning! I guess I should understand how people could believe the eleven left on the list, since I once believed in a talking snake. Still, it makes me want to scream. Mormonism is not recognized by any Christian denomination as Christian.

Mormonism, as you might have noticed, is a cult, a precurser of 20th century Scientology. Mormons believe Christ was the son of god and worship him. Ergo, they are Christians. The beliefs of Mormonism are no more ridiculous than the nonsense peddled by Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterians, or all the other goofballs who espouse supernatural gibberish. Worshipping Jesus is not the only criteria for being Christian… by the way Christian simply means follower of Christ if you want to get technical. Maybe I used the wrong word with worship but Mormons are certainly followers of Christ, their myth just has more chapters than yours.

You are certainly free to not consider them Christians but your argument is based on the same evidence that your belief in the Christian god is…none. The difference between their myth and Christianity is somthing you need to fundamentally respect:. Their book was made up in , obviously.

He made a lot of money, proudly made himself seem perfect in the writings, and used it as justification to give to him power which he abused. The christian bible truly does come from writings over years ago. We cannot attest to the witness of the writers therein because they truly died and older years ago.

But we know the archaeology shows they were truly based on events that happend in those times. The writers for the most part were not sell aggrandizing money grabbing womanizers. Not on twisting God to be their access to money and power. But Christians believe in Satan, who qualifies as a god by any ordinary definition. How is that not polytheism? A god is one who creates, who has unquestioned dominion over any realm and who is to be worshipped.

We know that Satan is a creation, who was sent to hell for demanding to rule over us. Satan is known as an adversary whose main purpose is to take worship from God. Nonsense, David. Look back through history. Satan would have ranked high in some of those pantheons.

It does not matter to us what other religions esp. You keep comparing the faith in God to the mythologies of other religions, as if they are equal in footing. Firstly, you do not seem to understand how seriously Jews and Christians took their understanding of God. Jews did not represent God as an idol in a temple, a unique occurrence among all religions. Christians did not. I see that in every way you are very religious. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.

By any ordinary definition, Satan qualifies. Christianity, then, believes in at least two gods. I spent a great deal of my life reading those verses—as a believer myself—and teaching them. How seriously Jews and Christians take their beliefs is neither here nor there to this issue. Jews and Christians believe in God, not a god. Not true, TJ. But equality has nothing to do with it. Other pantheons have greater gods and lesser gods, too. Do you think Hermes was considered the equal of Zeus? Also, the deity of a specified area of nature, human activity, etc.

Is not Satan thought of as a supernatural being? Is he not worshipped? No, not by Christians, but he is worshipped, right? Is Satan not thought of as the personification of evil? As believed by Jews and Christians is most relevant for two reasons. So not only is there no equality with separate gods, there are no beings for which to attach this equality to. They are co-equal, co-eternal… ah yes… remmeber that central Christian core tenet? Satan is not a deity. This was the central reason he was sent to hell..

Secondly, he is not held in dominion over any part of nature or human activity. ONe of the lies is that he is a god. Eat this fruit and you can become a god as well. A god like who? Ephesians makes no mention of a god, or deity. As watching shadows on a wall being as close to reality. Satan has no power… disagree? The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, your half so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Where can Satan go that God can not? God conquered death. Nope, God can destroy lies with truth…. Satan was punished for trying to be exactly what you yourself claim that he is. Satan tries to tempt us to believe we can be that which he was sent to hell for trying to be. Mormonism teaches that one can be that which the Serpent said we could be and that which God sent Satan to hell for trying to be. God does not share his deity with anyone. Actually you are redefining what a god is to Christians.

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Any ordinary definition of a god is clear: 1. A god creates. Satan was known as the angel of light, but Satan could not create anything. Yet you simply say you read them. I will not redefine the clear principles of those verses, and of Christinanity just so others who do not accept them get to be given a label to identify those who do.

You can be a Hindu, or Buddhist, no one is arguing about that. By the same definitions you would employ to call Hermes a god, Satan, too, is a god. And frankly, I have no more respect for Mormonism than you do. This is from the google search.

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Because you know, The Abrahamic religions are of the most common in the world. That we CHristians are as polytheistic as other religions? You are trying to make a compelling arguement, that Chrisitans should? Or what you say a common notion of a god is. One man makes up a lie years ago, no worse than whatever was written years ago… right?

You can blame the writers of the Bible for redefining what a god is…. Some people have initially experienced major trauma after they discovered that they were believing a myth, and invested a profound love in the god of their faith. This is why I tend to approach with caution. Belief curtails death anxiety, and releases lots and lots of dopamine. You believe because you are being rewarded, neurochemically, like having sex orgasm , taking drugs, and eating foods high in fat and sugar. Too much of a good thing, i. Neuropharmacological studies show that dopaminergic activation is the leading neurochemical feature associated with religious activity.

Studies also show that an anticipation of a reward i. We now have significant evidence that hyper-religiosity is a major feature of mania, obsessive-compulsive disorder, schizophrenia, temporal-lobe epilepsy and related disorders. Imaging studies show the ventromedial dopaminergic systems are highly activated in these individuals.

In other words, love is blind. This will most likely play a major role in you dismissing any evidence that is presented to you about your faith and love for and attachment to Christianity and Jesus. Please read the links within the site. Should this evidence sink in with you, be assured that you will have a very supportive community. One such community is Ex-Christian. In the meantime, if you have any questions about the info on the site, I recommend asking John, the author of the article. Well thank you for sharing your concerns.

Perhaps you can address the notion of self awareness, and how you can explain your own self perception of your own existence. Thank you for your exhaustive psychological analysis, however, that is not pertinent here. It merely serves to blanket invalidate the experiences and understanding of those with whom you disagree. Kind of how the Catholic church called the scientists crazy when they tried to prove the various scientific theories which mind you some of which were discovered by Chrsitian priests.

It is not helpful for you to explain that a bunch of psychologically deficient people just so happened to randomly guess that the universe created with a burst of light. Thank you, David. In the mean time, please look over the information I shared with you. I used to be a devout Christian with a profound love for Jesus. Just crazy about love.

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It was hard to be open-minded because I so wanted to believe. However, I have as much interest in discussing your link as you do in replying to my comment about self awareness…. Ok Vicki, You spoke about what seems apparent, that I need this belief for survival sake. Coping, and trauma, and so forth. We view self awareness as something fundamentally significant in how we perceive our universe.

Self awareness is worth considering in how we relate to our faith 3. I think therefore I am, I am who I am, etc. The conversations about existence, self awareness, go beyond isolated individual experiences, but in fact relate to the universe itself. Same being with self awareness.

It is a consistency of understanding the Bible, with observation of science that fulfills our faith. One has a faith in a bridge when they walk upon it. We Christians have faith in God because God also makes himself known throughout the universe, and fulfills our faith in fundamental ways let there be light, self awareness etc.

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Get the First Chapters Right Now. Get the first chapters right now! PDF and Audiobook Subscribe to Davis Ashura's newsletter and receive special offers as well as updates on new and upcoming books. Download Now. Pin It on Pinterest. Like his Biblical namesake, he is the firstborn son of Adam and Eve and the older brother of Abel and Seth. He was cursed with vampirism by God [4] and His angels as punishment for murdering Abel.

Before the formation of the Camarilla , most vampires referred to themselves as " Cainites " in recognition of their patriarch. These books conflict on Caine's motives, but all agree he killed his brother Abel. The Luciferian describes how Caine gave himself a "gift," and the gift was delusion. Using this gift, he thought he killed Abel in an act of love when it was really an act of hate.

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  4. He used this gift to make pride out of shame, which resulted in being outcast. The Gangrel scholar Beckett is also known for interpreting the Caine mythology as a conflict between farmer and hunter tribes. A farmer named Cain prepared a sacrificial offering to God, of his finest fruits and vegetables. His brother Abel also prepared a sacrificial offering, it being of the finest animals that he had raised. Either there was a dispute over whose offering was better, or God really favored Abel's over Cain's.

    The final result ended in Cain "sacrificing" Abel on an altar, his brother being the "finest" offering he could give. As punishment, Cain's "Father" cursed him with a mark, and cast him out to wander in darkness in the Land of Nod. Roaming the Land of Nod , Cain encounters Lilith.

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    She notices a swirling stain in the air around him, a mark of some dark unfathomed power: murder. He possessed the power to kill higher beings — not to hunt as Adam had, but to kill as had Jehovah. Seeing that he is cold and hungry, she welcomes Caine into her warmth.

    Lilith identifies herself as Adam's first wife, the original wife of Cain's father. After staying with her for some time, the two become lovers. He realizes that she has powers and magic that he too would like to possess, so he pleads her for these gifts. The hesitant Lilith then prepares an Awakening ceremony by cutting herself with a knife, bleeding into a bowl, and giving it to him so that he may drink. After Cain partakes of Lilith's blood, he is visited by three angels who are agents of God. Each angel offers Cain a chance to repent for the murder of Abel. However, Cain rejects each of them.

    And for each angel he rejects, a curse is added on to him. He and his children are cursed with a weakness to fire, vulnerability to sunlight and the Beast Within that hungers for blood. A fourth angel then appeared to offer the way of Golconda , the only way to "light", by the mercy of God. Caine then became aware of the Path of Blood , the Final Path from which all paths stem. And with all these powers, he breaks his bond with Lilith and leaves her. Caine continues to wander the Land of Nod in loneliness. The memory of his sin drowned him in sorrow. It was not for many ages until he decides to be amongst mortal men again.

    His powers and his mark were well known to mortal men and some even worshiped him. Finally, Caine settled [9] in a small agricultural community, named Ubar. It was here, in this First City that he became the Dark Father. Caine finally settled in a city, once known as Ubar.

    It was inhabited by the "Children of Seth" and ruled by King Enoch. The people of Ubar were aware of Caine's mark and both marveled and feared his power and thus came to worship him. Upon arrival to the city, Enoch relinquished his kingship, so that Caine may rule instead.

    According to a Toreador legend, being amongst the mortals, Caine noticed a couple who were very much in love. Seeing their love amplified his own loneliness and sin. After having dwelt on his sin for an eon, Caine thought that maybe he could reconcile something in his nature by Embracing them with the gift of immortality, so that their love would live for all eternity. However, after having been Embraced, the lovers discovered that they could not have children together.

    In an act of despair, they both walked into the sunlight to their Final Death.

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